Jinora Enters the Spirit World with Korra in Book 2 – but for what Reason?

One of the most unexpected moments of the Book 2 trailer was the scene that depicted Korra and Jinora entering the Spirit World together. As fans, we’re not all too familiar with characters besides the Avatar entering the Spirit World. There have been whispers of a possible Spirit World journey involving Uncle Iroh, and we saw Sokka enter the Spirit World too. But we were never completely exposed to the journey an outsider would take. It’ll certainly be interesting to see that perspective with Jinora this season, but why is she journeying into the Spirit World in the first place?

The trailer didn’t unveil any kind of reasoning for this plot twist, but it did drop a hint that uncovers a few possibilities. At one point in the trailer, Jinora can be seen entering Wan Shi Tong’s library on the back of some sort of bug-like spirit. Based on that, one could assume that Jinora was brought into the Spirit World to accompany Korra in her journey to the spirit library.

My theory from the very beginning was that Korra would enter the Spirit World to learn more about Spirits. I even added in the fact that she could visit Wan Shi Tong’s library to use the knowledge within for her research. But why would she want to bring Jinora into the library with her?

JinoraAfter analyzing Jinora’s character, I came to the conclusion that she probably went to the spirit library with Korra in order to aid her on her search for knowledge. That may have seemed fairly obvious, but why did Korra pick Jinora specifically for this task? One of the main characteristics of Jinora is that she’s a bookworm. She enjoys reading, especially historical related books. There’s no other character better suited to aid Korra when her journey revolves around the idea of literature and knowledge. Jinora could actually prove to be very useful in this type of situation.

It’s also important to acknowledge the strong bond Jinora and Korra have as a possible reason for the two entering the Spirit World together.

Jinora, the mature child out of the bunch, has always had a connection with Korra. Jinora helped convince Tenzin to let Korra stay on Air Temple Island in the series premiere. She was also the one Korra confided in for dating tips when she contemplated pursuing Mako. The relationship between the two is evident, and it may have played a key role in the deciding whether of not Jinora would accompany Korra on her journey to the Spirit World.

Another reason why I believe Jinora enters the Spirit World with Korra is because Korra needs Jinora. She may not need her in terms of physicality, but in terms of mental stability, Korra needs Jinora more than ever. As you probably recall, those who enter the Spirit World lose their ability to bend. Bending is a key trait that defines Korra’s aggressive personality. When she lost her ability to bend (for the most part) at the end of Book 1, she was lost.

korra losing bendingWhen Korra loses her ability to bend in the Spirit World, you could probably expect a similar feeling of helplessness from her. It won’t be as emotional since it’s only temporary, but I can’t imagine Korra fairing too well without her ability to bend – especially considering her aggressive nature. Jinora’s maturity and calmness could play a key role in keeping Korra in check. She could act as a crutch for Korra to lean on as she adjusts to the constraints of the Spirit World

The one thing that bothers me about this whole situation is how Jinora convinced her father, Tenzin, to let her venture out into the Spirit World in the first place. It’s certainly no journey meant for a child, and it’s hard to imagine Tenzin allowing his daughter to get involved in such a dangerous situation. So how did Jinora manage to get permission?

My guess is that she didn’t. She probably entered the Spirit World without her father’s permission. Or maybe Tenzin accepted the fact that his daughter is capable of such a journey? After all, she did help to fend off the Equalist when they invaded Air Temple Island. Keep in mind she also helped to save Lin Beifong in the process.

On the surface, allowing Jinora to venture into the Spirit World may seem unwise, but it might have been necessary. For the purpose of visiting Wan Shi Tong’s library, Jinora’s knowledge of literature and history may prove to be a valuable asset. Jinora’s bond with Korra may have also had in influence on the decision. Korra may even need Jinora as she enters unfamiliar territory and loses her ability to bend.

Those are the reasons why I think Jinora was brought into the Spirit World with Korra. What are your thoughts? Why do you think Jinora enter the Spirit World with Korra?

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  • Olo

    First! If you look closely, the “Bug” is actually a rabbit with helicopter ears, as can be seen on the right side of the post. I know, it weirded me out, too.

    • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

      Huh…a flying rabbit..that’s something else.

      • N N

        Doesn’t surprise me considering the talking monkey in the Spirit World in Book 1 of the original series, let alone all the other creatures in the Avatarverse.

        • N N

          And Hei Bai’s “monstrous” form.

        • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

          True.

    • Ace

      I’ve always thought it was a bunny, but I’d think it’s use it whiskers to fly, more like a dragonfly’s wings, and not using it’s ears. But those feet are definitely made for hopping, and the dark colored patch looks like a fluffy little puff of a tail.
      However, I guess we’ll find out soon.

  • MG

    Hi Keval, I have a theory that Avatar Wan’s episode, “Beginnings”, will occur at some point in the library. When the image of the first Avatar was revealed, I was wondering how the backstory would seamlessly fit in. This is where the Library fits in.

    As what you’ve mentioned in a post almost a year ago (http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/will-korra-visit-wan-shi-tongs-library-in-book-2-of-the-legend-of-korra/852/), the Library is an information-rich place, but was brought back to the spirit world. The library even has information of the Avatar’s past lives (Katara once mentioned that one of Aang’s past lives was left-handed), so I’m sure Wan’s story would appear there too.

    But the trailer has no scenes of Korra in the library, it only shows Jinora entering and encountering Wan Shi Tong. Maybe the duo got separated in the Spirit World?

    • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

      I was thinking that maybe Korra and Jinora could get separated but it would be really dumb of Korra to let Jinora roam the Spirit World on her own. I don’t think that will be the case.

  • Sabertooth-Moose-Lion

    That moment when you realise: Lao Beifong looks like Nicolas Cage.

    • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

      Shyamalan would cast him and everyone would call him a racist.

  • Hi

    I really don’t see Tenzin allowing Jinora taking this journey but In the first episode of the LOK I could’t see Tenzin leting korra stay, but he did so who knows what could happen with the whole permission thing

  • Kai

    I wonder if korra or jinora will meet koh aka no face also remember in the trailer when jinora and korra are in the water when a monster approaches them and swallows them whole maybe that’s when they get separated from each other in the spirit world.

  • slockry

    0.0

    • Dafeels

      To those who don’t get it, Aang died before he met any of his grandchildren.

      • Ace

        I love how he’s wearing Earth Kingdom clothing and so reminds me of Bolin. (If this was intended, or edited on purpose, please ignore this and the rest of the comment. Oops?) The fact that Bolin has been the only person to constantly cry in the series is what makes this so perfect. (He’s just a very emotional guy.)

        • Kotoi

          It was edited to look like Bolin.

          • Ace

            I had a feeling it was…

  • http://www.korranewstoday.blogspot.com/ Filmeditor16

    “GOD DAMNIT JINORA DID YOU GO INTO THE SPIRIT WORLD AGAIN?!?! I HAVE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH YOUR SPIRIT WORLD SHENANIGANS YOU GET OFF THAT GIANT FLYING SPIRIT BUG DEATH TRAP AND GET BACK IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD THIS INSTANT!!!” I don’t know I think that’s a pretty good take on how Tenzin would handle that little situation.
    All kidding aside your take on this seems valid and realistic and I’m sure your right about it and then Bryke is going to throw in a few other reasons or explainations as to why Jinora accompanies Korra in them spirit world. I don’t know what the other reasons are, but that’s the fun of it!

    • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

      Agreed. I’m sure there are other reasons that Mike and Bryan will reveal through the season,

  • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

    I’m liking all the memes and pictures lately.

  • Ace

    The Spirit World has always been very interesting, and I think I speak for myself and everyone else when I say that. However, the new spirit world looks very different from the one we saw in ATLA. Not only has the location itself changed, but the spirits, colors, and other mystical qualities of the Spirit World have become vastly different and alien to the dull, foggy Spirit World Aang entered.

    I am really glad that Jinora accompanies Korra into the Spirit World. You’re right, she will help her look for historically* related books (minor grammar error. Related is an adjective, and so it can only be modified by an adverb. Historical is an adjective, but historically is an adverb. Hope I could help!). In this way, I can relate to Jinora. I love reading. Mostly fantasy or science fiction, but I always throw in a historical fiction book here to there to spice things up. (Warning: This comment may or may not be dripping with sarcasm.) However, you delved into an area I hadn’t even thought of: bending. Of course, we know that bending is lost in the Spirit World, and while although that is only temporary, you are completely correct on how Korra would respond. Remember when Bolin had been captured by chi-blockers, and they were chasing the motorcycles on Naga and then they chi-blocked Korra as well as Mako? She was freaking out at the loss of her bending. So I think you are right. She would feel helpless without it. That’s why Jinora will be such a great help to Korra in the Spirit World. Not only will she provide emotional support, she will be there to physically comfort Korra as well. We know Korra feels defenseless without her bending, so with Jinora, she may feel like she has a purpose.

    Another fact is that Korra isn’t one of the most spiritual people we know. (Thanks, Captain Obvious!) In fact, in the spiritual sense, on a scale on Aang to 0, Korra makes a whole new rank for herself. (Okay, this may be exaggerated just a tad bit, but Korra definitely isn’t an Air Nomad, I can tell you that much.) However, Jinora is very spiritual and very knowledgeable, so for those reasons, as well as being there for Korra, she will be the perfect asset to help Korra in the Spirit World. However, the deepness Keval expressed in his post as to why exactly Korra needs Jinora is perfect, and so there is really no more to be said on the subject.
    As for Tenzin being okay with Jinora entering the Spirit World (and then possibly getting accidentally split up for Korra?); well, that’s another matter entirely. To put it simply, I think Asami would say it best.
    “It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission”.
    I’ll leave it at that.
    (Feel free to enjoy one of our complimentary cookies. Peanut, chocolate chip, sugar, and macadamia nut too.)

    • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

      Hi Ace, you always have a lot to say about Book 2 in the comments. Would you like to submit a guest post about anything pertaining to Book 2? You have my email, just send it over and I’ll publish it under your name.

      • Ace

        Oh my God, are you serious? Pinch me, I must be dreaming. Thank you so very much, Keval! I won’t let you down. I’ll have something for you soon. This is a wonderful opportunity. You won’t regret it, I promise. I’ll get to work on it ASAP. This is literally like a dream come true. If this is my last comment, it will be because I have just had a heart attack from how excited I am right now. Thank you, you rock!

        • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

          No problem. Take your time, no rush. I’ll take all the help I can get to push out content between now and Sept. 13th.

  • John

    What do you think books 3 & 4 will be titled… The creators have run out of bending abilities for her to master… But there was a rumor way way back in April 2012 that Book 2 will be titled “Metal”… Maybe that would be one…. And also what about “Lightning”, or “Sand”, or maybe one would be about korra giving non benders bending abilities, that book could be titled “Energy”

    • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

      I’m confident that Book 3 will be titled Metal because the season will focus on Lin Beifong and Earth Bending. So Metal make a lot of sense. As for Book 4, I think Energy is a good one. I don’t know, it just sounds cool. Hard to speculate that far ahead when we don’t know what it’ll be about.

    • Ace

      I think “Metal” may be a very realistic title, as Book 3 will be covering more on earthbending (and by extension, metalbending and maybe even sandbending, Lin, and Toph. I can’t wait to see what the title is. The only issue may be that I’m not sure if they’d let the a subset of one bending skill in particular be the title of a chapter. That seems kind of rude to the other subsets. For all we know, it might just be titled “Earth”. But then either “Water” or “Fire” would be left out. However, if I’d have to guess, Water would be left out, just like “Air” was left out of ATLA since Aang was originally an airbender, and “Water” would be left out since Korra was originally a waterbender (although she showed skill in earth, fire, and water at a young age, unlike most other Avatars, I assume, since usually they have a test. Or at least, they did for Aang.) I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

      As for the name, Energy sounds really cool. I really want to learn more about energybending, since so little has been told to us about it except for the few times we have seen or heard about it. Basically out main source was a giant lionturtle, which I think is gone forever. However, I very much doubt Korra would give nonbenders the ability to bend, if she did posses that power. All we know right now is that she can reconnect people to the element they had a connection to, not grand nonbenders bending. Then, she could just grant everyone connection to all bending forms and there goes Korra’s main strength. The power to grant nonbenders bending would be extremely powerful, and so I don’t think Korra would have it. I think people have to be born with a connection to an element, and nothing can grant them that, not even something or someone as strong as the Avatar.

      • DunbansBiggestFanForever

        omg yes. Book 3 Metal. That’s so badass.

    • MitchGunner

      I DON’T think Books 3 & 4 will have an element, or even a sub element, as a title. If a season is going to involve mastering sub elements, I predict there will be multiple sub elements included and the title of the book will not be specifically targeting just one.

      However, I’m leaning more towards the idea of the seasons not having titles of elements, such as Book 2: Spirits. I wouldn’t even be surprised if Korra gets a season to master the Avatar State (If she doesn’t master it this season. I don’t think she has really mastered based on her use of it against a spirit attack in “Rebel Spirit.” It doesn’t count that she can go into it at will, at least I don’t think it counts as mastery.

      I’ve rambled on long enough, so I’ll just conclude with this: I think it will be very difficult to predict Book 3 & 4′s titles because they may be very vague and not associated with mastering something. An example of the kind of title I’m thinking of is, is Book 4: Revelations.

  • Nico

    i just want to watch it

  • Ace

    Something I find to be a huge flaw is Korra’s newfound spiritual sense. She herself hasn’t changed that much personality-wise, but she seems to be a spiritual master and it seems a little wrong to me.

    My first problem with it is that it took Aang like, the whole series to master the Avatar State? I think the only time he actually took control was in the finale, in the last episode of ATLA. Korra masters the Avatar State after the first book. I know Korra is older, and that she changed somewhat because of the loss of her bending, then meeting her past lives because she had hit the lowest point in her life, but think about it. Aang is an Air Nomad. Air Nomads are known for being very spiritual. Even for a kid, Aang was probably one of the more spiritual Air Nomads. So to do with the Avatar State and Spirits, I think he would have more power in that area than Korra. However, after basically ignoring the spiritual side of being the Avatar all of her life, she suddenly goes from zero to hero in terms of spirituality. Not only can she go in and out of the Avatar State with complete control, such as Aang didn’t have until the end of ATLA, she basically has become perfect in terms of an Avatar. Both spiritual and an amazing bender, she has it all.

    Secondly, she can take people into the Spirit World. Aang didn’t take anyone into the Spirit World, and it was hard enough to get into the Spirit World himself. He could only do it on rare occasions, such as at the Spirit Oasis, and during a solstice. He was extremely spiritual, so imagine how hard it must be to get into the Spirit World. Then, imagine adding on bringing someone else with you. Even if Jinora is very spiritual and an Air Nomad, it shouldn’t be as easy as it looks. This is why I am dubious of Korra’s newfound spiritual sense. It seems just a bit too powerful, and I feel like she should’ve been balanced by having more trouble with the spiritual side of being the Avatar, not just have it all come easy now that she can bend all four elements and has talked to her past lives once.

    • Nathan

      It stands to reason that the four elements would have their own way to master the Avatar State. I just can’t see them all having to go see a guru to master it. It is possible, but I just don’t see it.

      Think about Avatar Roku and the flashbacks of his life; he was able to control the Avatar State immediately after mastering the four elements. No guru needed.

      My point is, there is probably different ways to achieve mastering the Avatar State for the four elements, some faster than others.

      On top that, because the show has such a low episode count compared to ATLA, they have to speed things up dramatically.

      • Ace

        You’ve both brought up very interesting points, and so I’ll start with Nathan’s response.
        I think that Korra’s major spiritual influence has been Tenzin. Otherwise, she has been completely ignoring the spiritual side of being the Avatar. That’s why the fact that she can access the Avatar State with ease, have full control over it, and bring others into the Spirit World along with her.
        However, there is one thing I didn’t consider. She may have been mediating or trying to be more in tune with the spiritual side of being the Avatar as Book 2 takes place 6 months after Korra defeated Amon. This means she has has a lot of time for practice, and while I doubt she used every single day of it for progression spiritually, we can assume she has become more powerful spiritually as the Avatar, having half a year to do so.
        Then there is also the fact that the episode count is extremely low, so things do need to be kept moving. Civil War breaks out 4 episodes into Book 2, so the fact that there is little time to tell a big story should be taken into account as well.

      • desperate dan

        Roku did not immediately master the Avatar State, in the canon game Avatar: Escape From The Spiritual World he mentions to Aang that he had the help of the Fire Sages, and that he rushed it with almost tragic consequences (the temple island got demolished).

        The Guru was more of a stand in for the actual Air Nomads, as he was friends with them and kept their ideas about spirituality alive. Were the Air Nomads not extinguished Aang would have learned from a senior monk rather than the Guru.

        • Nathan

          Well, Avatar Roku may have had some help, but I seriously doubt he had to unlock his chakras to use the Avatar State.

          Sure, but I think Aang still would have had to do the same things to unlock the Avatar State.

    • Muggle

      Does she seem to be a spiritual master? She has control over the Avatar State but she’s still not very spiritual. The only thing that has changed about her lack of spirituality is that she’s aware of it, and is trying to fix it… instead of totally blowing it off in book 1 until the very end.

      In ATLA some people who weren’t the Avatar managed to enter the Spirit World, Sokka and Iroh among them. Granted, Sokka was dragged into it against his will by an angry spirit, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Jinora’s found a way to get in just because she found the right book one day looking for something new to read. It certainly helps that she’s really spiritual and an actual Air Nomad (well, one-quarter Air Nomad, but still).

      I’m also with Nathan on his theory that every element has a way to master the Avatar State. I think the fastest way to be able to enter it at all is to be an airbender, which is why Aang was able to enter it before he mastered the other three elements. But I also agree that once an Avatar has mastered all four elements, it’s not long until they have control over the Avatar State. Perhaps they do have the help of gurus; I’m pretty sure Roku would have had the help of the Fire Sages (in fact, I’m pretty sure that he did). I can’t imagine Kyoshi being left completely alone on spiritual matters. But at the same time those gurus might have just been their bending teachers. I think all Aang really would have needed was some continued teaching from an Air Nomad (and the closest he could get was Pathik) and a bit of time to fully master the Avatar State… which probably would have happened if the events leading up to ATLA hadn’t happened.

      • Ace

        You’ve presented many points which are important, and so here is my response.
        First off, I will say that when I said she mastered the spiritual part of being the Avatar, I didn’t mean she has progressed at all spiritually herself, I mean that it seems to just be like an everyday thing now. The way she entered the Avatar State during the scooter race with Ikki, had full control over it, and then left it suddenly after just seems like she has been practicing. However, the thing I had forgotten is that Book 2 takes place 6 months after Book 1, so maybe she has had time to practice.
        As for Jinora getting herself into the Spirit World, or helping Korra with getting herself in the Spirit World, whether by being an Air Nomad or finding some ancient text, I hadn’t really considered. Sokka’s entrance to the Spirit World I don’t count because he didn’t do anything. As for Iroh, he is definitely the exception to the rule. He was a very spiritual man, especially for being a high-ranking Fire Nation officer. He is probably one of the few people ever to journey into the Spirit World, other than the Avatar. However, the fact that Jinora could help Korra get them both into the Spirit World never occured to me, and that is actually very possible. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
        Now that I remember Book 2 takes place 6 months after the events of Book 1, I see that Korra may have grown spiritually over that time. It’s just the fact that she has basically ignored the spiritual side of being the Avatar her whole life, and now she can suddenly not only enter the Avatar State easily, at will, and have full control over it, she can also bring others into the Spirit World. However, she has possibly been progressing spiritually. I think maybe just because the show skipped over those 6 months and I haven’t actually seen it, I may have trouble comprehending the fact that she can now do these things. Thanks though, you have very good points.

    • daniel yefru

      maybe since it was easier for korra since they were living in a time of peace and no more war but aang didnt have time he had travel to the water tribe to learn waterbending and then defend it then learn earth bending but the earth kingdom falls then learn firebending but then by the time its almost too late and just does it but for korra she knew she was the avatar since she was 4 but aang didnt know until he was 12 he could of learnd them faster

      • Ace

        Korra’s life wasn’t rainbows and butterflies either: she had Amon to deal with. Sure, she knew she was the Avatar when she was younger, but she ignored the spiritual side of being the Avatar all her life, which makes me think that she shouldn’t have it come so easy to her. She only actually started paying any attention to the spiritual side of being the Avatar during her airbending training, and it was at the end of Book 1 that she finally saw her past lives and really progressed spiritually.

        • daniel yefru

          True,but comparing the two situations aang’s problem was much worse aang had to travel to the water tribe then had to destroy possible 3/4 of the fire nation navy then had to go to a city where secerts had to be kept hidden and then aang almost died then he had to make the world think he failed the world which is hard to do then had to fight a human flame thower during the comet

          • Ace

            Korra could’ve died at many points, and she even lost her bending, which basically means she lost herself. Aang had a hard job, and maybe a harder one, but Korra had less time (I think?) than Aang did. Her enemy was also scary, where as the Fire Lord was just another person, not nearly as strong as the Avatar anyways.
            My point is, I just don’t think Korra should be as good with the Avatar State and spiritual matters as she is now, if Aang wasn’t when he was basically a spiritual master. Of course Korra is older, it’s just I’ve never seen her as a spiritual figure so the fact that she can go into the Avatar State whenever she wants and have complete control is not what I’d expect from her.

          • WatertribeGuy

            remember that aang had to master all the elements within the course of 3 seasons. Winter = water, earth = spring, summer = fire. Aang had way less time

          • Ace

            However, his journey gave him much more time than Korra has had in only one season of actually focusing on the spiritual side of being the Avatar.

          • Kangaroo

            I agree with you. With Aang, it was more in-depth than with Korra. And I thought that was weird. There was really no struggle for her, and now it seems the story has ended, she’s got everything now. I just hope the rest of the series comes out with something that she’ll have to really work with in time.

          • Ace

            Thanks. I just feel like she should’ve had to put effort into it, but it seems to me like she has suddenly become someone different from the Korra I know. Maybe it’s just because Book 2 hasn’t started and I haven’t seen the 6 months Korra may have been working hard to master the Avatar State and all things spiritual, it just feels like she has become the perfect Avatar with her awesome bending power as well as a newfound spiritual sense.

          • Pabu

            I agree with you on that Korra has changed rapidly in her spiritual side, but she had 6 months of relative peace, and Tenzin (a spiritual master) to help her. Also, I think the creators didn’t want to delve into the process of her being a spiritual master is because itwould seem too repetitive to the process Aang went through in ATLA. No point repeating the same material, right?

          • Ace

            Yeah, and I know what you’re saying. It just feels like a rush, that all of the sudden Korra has gone from one person to another. You know what I mean? Of course, I wouldn’t want to watch the 6 months we skipped. That would be boring. (Well actually, any Legend of Korra would be great, but the point is there is more important stuff to cover). I just feel like since she was so underdeveloped spiritually during Book 1 until the end, even though she has had these 6 months, I feel like she should still be struggling with the spiritual side of being the Avatar. I’m not sure if that makes any sense; that’s just what I thinks.

          • Watertribeguy

            I think that its due to the fact that the creators had originally planned for korra to be a miniseries. So mastering the spiritual side makes total sense if Book 1 would have been the only book.

            I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. You see mastering the Avatar State as the be all end all of mastering spirituality. Book 2 Spirits, shows us that there is more to it and that going into the Avatar State is so much more than it is.

            Remember the Avatar is supposed to bring balance to world, Aang probably saw that tons of people were losing their bending (which is totally unnatural!) so of course he would activate her Avatar state.

          • Ace

            I guess we have different opinions as to what the Avatar does spiritually. My idea of a spiritual Avatar is one who can go in and out of the Avatar State as will, control the Avatar State completely, and go into the Spirit World. However, Korra has surpassed this by all means in my opinion by not only mastering the Avatar State in a short while (6 months), whilst it took Aang, the spiritually active one, his whole journey to control the Avatar State. Also, Korra seems to go into the Spirit World in Book 2, not something I’d expect without a lot of practice, even more than the Avatar State, because she probably uses the Avatar State much more than she travels to the Spirit World, if she had at all before. Not only this, but she takes another person, Jinora, along with her. This seems to me a little bit too much too fast, considering Aang could only enter the Spirit World by himself (or at least the times he did in ATLA he was alone), and only when the time was right. That being during the solstices, the winter solstice to be exact, when the space between the Spirit World and his world were closest. On the other occasion, it was because he was in the Spirit Oasis. However, even if Korra has either of those two helping her, the fact is she is taking Jinora with her, which Aang never did.

          • Jonas

            Haha great discussion! but may I add something:
            - Korra has been the avatar her entire life, so her bending wasn’t really “rushed” like aang (in a way you can say that Aangs journey was also rushed (physically), I mean a new element every 3 months while korra had at least 3 years)
            - The first season didn’t happen in one week, I guess the timeframe was 6 months or so. In that time she could fully focus on airbending and meditating (and amon and pro bending)
            - She learned meditating and airbending from Tenzin,an amazing airbender and spititual master

            When taking all these aspects into account (Great teacher, 6 months mastering air and Av State after book 1, her age and the peace she lives in) then one could easily assume she mastered the state.

            Roku became the avatar at age 16 and mastered everything by age 26-30. So Korra is on par with that considering she’s been training since age 4.

          • Ace

            She didn’t focus on the spiritual side of being the Avatar at all until she started airbending training, she didn’t fully focus on airbending, she had Amon, pro-bending, and she was in love with Mako, all which took up most of her time, and she wasn’t progressing much in Tenzin’s way of teaching. She couldn’t meditate much, and she didn’t airbend until the last episode. I think she probably didn’t start training when she was 4. She was a child. Maybe at around 12. Also, her lack of spirituality means that, in my opinion, she should’ve had to work harder towards mastering the Avatar State because she is such a great bender and bending came so easily to her.

          • Julia

            Please keep in mind that initially the series was only ever meant to be 1 season. Therefore the creators had to try and achieve korra’s mission in 1 season while aang had 3 seasons to develop. Im pretty sure that if bryan and michael would have known that they would be aloud more seasons korra would have been developed more. Thats what most people tend to forget about the show before they make assumptions and create opinions. Dont get me wrong, i fully respect your opinion and it makes total sense. But no one knew the show will have such good reviews that they will be aloud to buy more seasons. You feel me?

          • Ace

            Yes, but she didn’t master the Avatar State in Book 1. She only unlocked it. I feel that even though the creators had to think up a completely new Book 2, they should’ve had her work harder towards the spiritual side of being the Avatar. Of course, they can’t now, but I just wish they would’ve made her do more, and we could’ve seen her grow through the experiences of learning how to be the Avatar instead of having it come easy.

          • Pabu

            Exactly! I too am getting used to the change, but that might not be a bad thing. There are always new adventures to be had and new stories to be told.

          • Ace

            Yeah. It’ll be great to see her use the Avatar State and actually do something useful, since the times we have actually seen her in the Avatar State have been a total of three (I think) and she wasn’t doing anything productive. First she was just getting her bending back and looking awesome, second she used it to win an air scooter race, and third she used it for a split second to try to attack the Dark Spirit in the South Pole and she got pummeled by it instead.
            Anyways, I just wish they would’ve incorporated her struggling with the spiritual side of being the Avatar more in Book 2 instead of just have it all work for her. Not only would it add some humor and other things, it would help her grow spiritually since she was actually doing something, not just practicing on Air Temple island. I think it would also help us adjust to a new Korra that is finally learning airbending and her Avatar powers, and we would see her grow and become the Avatar that she is capable of, instead of just having the power already.

          • daniel yefru

            Ozai tried to burn down the world and would kill his own son if amon had a son he would treat him as a prince ozai wouldnt even give up when he is about to die

          • Ace

            Ozai was evil but so was Amon, Zuko wasn’t Ozai’s son, Amon took his own brother’s bending away, and neither did Amon.

          • daniel yefru

            ozai was killing pepole but amon was taking there bending

          • Ace

            For Korra that’s pretty much the same time.
            She was at the lowest point in her life when Amon took her bending. She was so depressed that she didn’t want to talk to anyone, even Mako. She just wanted to be alone, because too her, her life was over. Taking anyone’s bending away is probably like ripping away part of them, like shredding someone’s soul. It’s like if someone took your arm, or your eye. Do you need it to live? No, not necessarily. But you would feel incomplete without it, and while that isn’t murder, it’s still evil. I don’t judge different kinds of evil on a scale of how horrible they are; they’re pretty much all evil. Could you compare (and I know this may be controversial) Hitler and abortion? Which is more evil? Which has killed more? Or could you compare divorce and rape? Which has hurt people more? I think evil is evil, and I’ll leave it at that.

          • daniel yefru

            well acutally korra still had airbending so her bending wasent compeltly tookin away plus this kinda evil is completly killing someone but amon evil is taking away there unqiue abilltly wouldnt it be diffrent if amon KILLED KORRA but he didnt try to kill korra but ozia did and if u want to get rid of something then u have to get rid of it and show’s amon’s method of mercy and taking korra’s abilty isntead of her life shows ozai is more evil and shows no mercy

          • Ace

            This is of course, an opinion debate, and so there is no right answer. However, the fact is Korra felt like her life was over and she meant nothing. That’s pretty much as bad as being dead. Some people say torture or depression is worse than being dead, but that’s based on opinion. Of course, she wasn’t dead, whilst she did come out of her depression because she was still the Avatar.
            I just think that what they both did was evil, with neither being worse. Sure, one is murder and the other is taking bending, but think about what would’ve happened if both had succeeded in their plans. Ozai might’ve killed off everyone except for the Fire Nation, but I doubt it because then he would barely have any subjects. He wanted to be the Phoenix Lord. If he only wanted the Fire Nation to survive, he would’ve just stayed the Fire Lord. Otherwise Azula has become leader of the world too if he kills everyone. I think he was probably showing his power and would’ve killed people who got in his way, and maybe destroyed the first city as an example to the rest of the world. But what Amon was doing was just as bad in my opinion. He wanted to take away part of people’s lives, and he would’ve had to murder Korra in the Avatar State to get rid of bending forever. He probably, once he rid the world of bending, would’ve had to quell rebellions because people don’t like having one person rule the world. Examples are Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Rome, Hitler, and many, many more. He also would’ve had to kill many benders, because I doubt he could capture a whole nation as large as the Earth Kingdom and taken away everyone’s bending, and then done the same to the the Fire Nation or the Water Tribes without expecting some resistance. He would’ve murdered in Republic City, but it was a contained situation so he didn’t have to. He wanted people to follow him, and no one wants to follow a murderer, so he didn’t kill anyone. However, I think he would’ve, as he would’ve felt more and more powerful as he rid the world of bending and became the only bender in the world.
            Anyways, my point is I think they were both as evil, and we can’t tell exactly what their plans were, but their intentions were evil enough, so from that I’d have to say they are both equally evil.

          • daniel yefru

            but ace,amon was a bloodbender he could of killed anyone anytime he wanted too even korra but he didnt showing mercy and mercy is like a flaw in evil showing mercy is weak in evil so ozai is like what sokka said ‘pure evil’ but amon wasent pure enough he even thought to make a new life with his brother

          • Ace

            If he would’ve killed Korra, she would’ve become a martyr. He said so himself. He took his brother’s bending away and he was the only person he could turn to for help. Amon didn’t show mercy, he just didn’t want to show that he was a bender and he didn’t want to murder until he had a fully loyal following otherwise they might’ve turned on him.

          • daniel yefru

            amon is very persuavive he could of just told his followers he could of told them he has the abilty to kill someone

          • Ace

            The Equalists just wanted to have everyone be nonbenders. They didn’t want to kill anyone, and I think that they would be smarter than thinking the spirits had given him the power to kill.

          • daniel yefru

            if they were the same then ozai would be putting pepole in prison instad of killing them or amon would of used his blood bending to kill them

          • Ace

            Amon just wanted followers and nobody wants a followe but the Fire Nation, N. and S. Water Tribes and Earth Kinddom would fight so he’d probably have to end up killing people to get to cleansing everyone. Ozai might’ve killed off everyone except for the Fire Nation, but I doubt it because then he would barely have any subjects. He wanted to be the Phoenix Lord. If he only wanted the Fire Nation to survive, he would’ve just stayed the Fire Lord. Otherwise Azula has become leader of the world too if he kills everyone. I think he was probably showing his power and would’ve killed people who got in his way, and maybe destroyed the first city as an example to the rest of the world.

          • daniel yefru

            he said he wanted to reborn the world in fire think about that he acutally could do that with sozin’s comet and with the comet ozai can easily take over the water tribes and melt them and burn down the earth kingdom but amon’s intenion’s was to take away everyone’s bending in the world instead of killing them and in the book of evil thats called going ‘soft’ obivous this is a debeat on a opionion your opionion is that amon and ozai’s evilneess is the same and i will respect that

          • Ace

            I just think that it could’ve gone either way. Ozai never said straight out he was going to murder everyone. What I think he meant was that he was going to make himself rule the world as the ultimate firebender. Also, Amon started out that way but he definitely would’ve had to change tactics once it came to “cleansing” the other countries. They would fight and he would have to kill, which the Equalists wouldn’t stand for. Ozai and Amon both would’ve done whatever they had to do to get their way, and if anyone got in their way they would’ve killed them. The only reason Amon didn’t kill Korra is because the United Forces would’ve been called in earlier and he wasn’t ready for that yet.

    • LongtimereaderFirsttimeposter

      Couldn’t Aang have taught Korra how to master the avatar state in its physical form the same way he showed her how to energy bend? So if Korra opened herself to a more spiritual existence by reaching her lowest point, then maybe she learned to control the avatar state as physical embodiment of her ability whilst ignoring the underlying spiritual side, which she seems to be learning along the way? The whole point of the avatar state is to learn from your past lives, so if Aang found a way to physically control the avatar state, then it makes sense that he would have taught her how to do it. Also, the avatar state is a defence mechanism, in the past, it was mentioned that the avatar used the spiritual connection as a way to control it, it doesn’t mean it was the only way to control it. I prefer to look at the whole picture rather small segmented pieces.

  • ahmedumer

    I think jinora may enter into the spirit world by a sub-element of air.Look in the last airbender there were door ways to enter like in book1 water episode 6 sokka entered the spirit world by a gateway but in book 2 trailer of korra jinora entered the spirit world with out any gateway behind her was a tree and i think that can be the swamp tree cause in book 2 they will also travel outside the republic city so korra might go in the swamp and when aang touched the tree he entered the avatar state.There is also another chance of sub-element of air which may help jinora to enter in spirit world.

  • Hi

    Keval I have a question, Has nick been airing the book 2 trailer during commercials because I’ve been watching nickelodeon a lot recently and have not seen it until I recorded that swindle movie by nick and was just watching it when when the book 2 trailer come on. It’s the only time I’ve seen it on TV since the last airbender movie a while ago. so have they just started or have they been showing the trailer or what?

  • John

    Hey keval… I don’t really know how to write a guest post but maybe you could write your own post about the new comic book trilogy about team avatar trying to build republic city… I here Toph will be in it more. Its called
    The Rift and its coming out March 5th, 2014

    • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

      I could probably write a post about that.

  • Me

    Maybe they will just name book 3 earth. Metal isn’t an element,is it? It could be about learning further about earth metal sand and maybe even sensing please respond Keval

  • chewgum

    i hate studio pierrot, i’ve just seen the face of korra when she eat the cotton candy. i HATE that face. it’s tipically of the anime and i HATE the animes. Luckily there’s studio mir in season 3

    • chewgum

      it’s not that face but you can find it at koranation tumblr

    • DunbansBiggestFanForever

      ok now you’re just being picky. it doesn’t look that bad at all. I made the exact same face recently when someone offered me cotten candy.

      • chewgum

        ahah ;)
        ok i must get used ;)

    • daniel yefru

      same here u should watch the trailer she looks like the geto animation in naruto

      • chewgum

        i hate naruto

    • MitchGunner

      I think it looks fine… Pretty good actually.

    • korosh

      Avatar’s art style is based on anime and influenced by Hayao Miyazaki’s films and Cowboy Bebop for an example. In one of Brian’s tumblr posts, there was a Naruto poster in one of Nick’s offices.There are few Korean animation studios like Mir are working on Naruto. Naruto and Avatar have similarities such as element based techniques and saving the world. :) But still Korra is a bit better than Naruto, Bleach and One Piece. By the way, one of the Korean animators working on Korra is a fan of One Piece and drew a fan art of Avatar Wan as Luffy.

      Anyways,Korra wouldn’t make that face without Bryke’s approval. :)

  • Kataangshipper

    According to Avatar Yangchen, many great Air Nomads have reached spiritual fullfilment by meditating. Im not saying that Jinora has achieved this, but I say she is close. This is just a small theory

    • Ace

      I get what you’re saying, and while Jinora is the most spiritual one out of her siblings, that isn’t saying much. (Seriously, Meelo fell asleep while meditating, and Ikki is like a little demon. She purposely told Asami about Korra liking Mako, then her face after Korra didn’t let her come in the room was kinda scary.)

      All jokes aside, I think it would take a lifetime to reach spiritual fulfillment. That’s saying that they have become perfectly enlightened, that they have no longer any spiritual needs because they have attended to them all. I’m not sure if even Tenzin has become spiritually fulfilled, and so, if I had to guess, I’d say that Jinora hasn’t. I’m not saying she isn’t just because she is young, because she is very mature for her age, it’s just that I feel like it would take time and effort; I don’t think you can just become spiritually fulfilled so quickly and easily. However, Jinora is an Air Nomad, and a very spiritual one at a young age as well. So she may well be close, but I’m not sure she is actually as close as it seems.

      My point is, I think it will take more time for her to become spiritually fulfilled, because at that point you have basically fixed everything you need to about yourself spiritually. Whilst Jinora is very spiritual and good, I just don’t think, even for her, it would come that easy. I’m not sure if what I’m saying makes any sense, but I feel like it would be a long process, sort of like what Guru Pathik made Aang go through to have control over the Avatar State. Aang did it all up to the last step, because to become spiritually fulfilled, as he was trying to do to be able to control the Avatar State, he needed to become something other than what he was. I think the process is hard, and that it just isn’t something one does lightly, quickly, or easily.

      • Kataangshipper

        You make a good point. And I agree when you say it would probably take a lifetime. I was just putting out an idea

        • Ace

          Sorry, I didn’t mean to sound so mean. You made a good point too and I think that there’s a possibility that Jinora could be close to spiritually fulfilled, I just feel like maybe she isn’t that close because it is basically the culmination of being an airbender. Hope I didn’t offend you, I just like discussing. Thanks!

          • Kataangshipper

            Oh, no! No! Im not mad! I highly appreciate your opinion!!! Dont worry! I love hearing what you have to say!!! :)

          • Ace

            Oh okay. Well thanks, that means a lot to me. Remember, I can be wrong too sometimes. (Gasp!) Had fun discussing with you.

          • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

            I, also, am wrong a lot ;)

          • Ace

            What can I say?
            It happens to the best of us.

      • daniel yefru

        i heard a korraspirt theroy

        the sub element of airbending could be crossing into the spirt world if u want more details u could watch the wan theroy

        • Ace

          Hmm. Well, that’s definitely a possibility. However, why is it then that Tenzin doesn’t have this power, but his daughter did, unless she learned it from a book or by meditating? However, it sounds very realistic. The only thing I can think of is that Iroh wasn’t an air bender and he crossed over to the Spirit World, so that kinda throws it off. However, as I said, Iroh was a very spiritual man and the exception to the rule. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

          • daniel yefru

            well tenzin didnt have time with spirtualy matters in book 1 sicne the revelotuion was going on he had to do with politics and no time with medating but possibly his daughther medetaing in most of her time besides wat else would she do ?

          • Ace

            Tenzin was a kid too, and based on his nature he probably meditated and kept to himself. So he’s probably like Jinora in that way. But you’re right, doesn’t seem like there’s much to do than play with siblings and meditate if you’re Jinora. Poor Jinora.

  • DunbansBiggestFanForever

    I don’t know why she’s journeying with Korra but I’m not complaining cause that means Jinora gets more screen time and she’s one of my favourite characters.

  • daniel yefru

    u think korra might need to learn blood bending?

    • chewgum

      no i think, she’s so legendary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

  • Hi

    A custom lego avatar… (I did my best, it’s not that awesome but it’s kinda neat)

    • http://avatarthelegendofkorraonline.com/ Keval

      Looks sexy.

      • Hi

        Ya know, now that you mention it it does.

  • daniel yefru

    am i the only one who noticed when korra does her first airbending technique she does it with a punch instead with her hands?

  • daniel yefru

    i guees unalq is gonnna be like korra’s ‘guru’ :( ima miss guru pathik and his
    Onion-banana juice

  • Kangaroo

    I think I like ATLA a little bit better. In ATLA it took things slow, and I loved how it made it into our minds and hearts ever so slowly with Aang and his group, their frustrations, their fights, friendships, conquers, etc. I’m kinda missing that with TLOK. Its moving very fast and yea, its good, but it doesn’t keep me on the edge of my seat, feeling the emotions that ATLA had given me. Of course they aren’t the same, but I’m just hoping something big and wonderful is going to happen in this series.

  • Julia

    Remember how there is meant to be a sub-bending skill for airbending discovered in book 2? Maybe an experienced enough airbender will gain the ability to connect with the spirit world. It does make a lot of sense since you need to be an exceptional bender in order to unlock the sub-bending skill (toph-metal bending. amon,katara,hama-bloodbending. zuko,mako,azula- lightning) And from what we’ve seen in season 1 Jinora seems as a very good airbender and she shows how calm and collected she can be (which is what you need to be to enter the spirit world), and it would make total sense that she unlocks an ability that only the avatar or very unlucky people *cough* sokka *cough* can project.

  • Singe

    This is just part of the prodigy girl trend that the Series has done. Katara was a Water Bender Prodigy. Azula was a Fire Bender Prodigy. Toph was an Earth Bender Prodigy. Jinora will be the Air Bender prodigy.

  • Chris

    Not to mention Jinorasa was the name of a lesser-known Buddhist writer and poet. Coincidentally, Jinora is also a well-read girl, having encyclopaedic knowledge on various subjects, such as being able to identify a fire ferret on the spot and recite its natural habitat.

    • Racheal

      That why she well verse and maybe the reason she is accompanying Korra to the spirit library. Good catch