Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, Legend of Korra Fans & Readers

Merry Christmas and happy holidays, Legend of Korra fans! Last year, my family and I celebrated Christmas by watching The Hobbit at our local AMC theatre. This year we decided to mix things up a bit and go on a Cruise with some friends. The boat has been rocking rather uncomfortably for the most part and I’m attempting to keep my mind off of it by watching the always funny Christmas Vacation. If you haven’t seen it, I suggest browsing for it on your TV Guide and giving it a watch – it’s a classic.

But enough about me, how has the holiday month been for all of you? How do you plan on spending Christmas? What did Santa leave under your tree this year? In case you’re curious, Santa left me a brand new Xbox One that I’m eager to try out during my one month winter break.

Chat about the holidays in the comments below:

  • Heisenberg

    Merry Christmas to you too. Have you checked The Hobbit 2? It seriously kicks ass. Benedict Cumberbatch kills it as Smaug.

  • Raavatar

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year here from the Philippines :)

  • Aeri

    I got some money and I’m enjoying my day by drawing in my pjammies and eating the many sweets I’ve recieved. Hope everyone’s having a nice holiday!

    And Keval, I know how you feel. I’ve been on a few cruises and the rocking never really got to me, but it was bothering so I can’t imagine how uncomfortable it is for you. Oh well, one thing that can get your mind off of everything is the food! Cruise food is amazing and I swear I gained 10 pounds just in one week eating all of the wonderful stuff avaliable. (cough my room was right under the pool’s buffet, I ate maybe 3 pizzas a day and 52 total bowls of ice cream. Geez I’m such a fatttiee)

    • Loklover

      I’ve never been on a cruise. I have a huge fear of water. XD is it fun?

      • Aeri

        It’s boatloads of fun nopunintendedwow. I was 9 or so on my last one, but I remember a lot. Having a fear of water won’t really be a problem unless you let it be. The only parts of the boat exposed to water are the pool decks, and those have strong metal railing/glass coverings at least 3 feet or so tall, 99% of the time you won’t be within 10 feet of them if you weren’t going to go lean on the railing and stare at the water. Any floors below that always had thick glass if the wall was exposed, or portholes. The water is fascinating to stare at, really, but it’s much more fun to go eat (cough that’s all I did, free food at 9 years old). Wouldn’t recommend the pools since they mostly were floating with the unbreakable ‘plastic’ cups from children and probably urine. :<

        • Loklover

          Lol I’m with yah. If I was on a cruise, I’d probably be eating a lot too! XD

  • Eliminator

    Merry Christmas from Germany :)
    Have fun with your Xbox!

  • Loklover

    You have a month off for winter break?! So lucky! I only have 2 weeks ): But this year (for me) didn’t feel a lot like Christmas. The only present I got was a car (which I’m not complaining about…lol) A lot of my family members scattered to different places this year for Christmas. My auntie went to Florida to visit her grandchildren, my dad had to work today, my moms sick, my brother’s wife just had a baby so he can’t come to California this year )': and my other auntie and uncle went to visit their son (my cousin) in Maryland. I’m all alone, but I’m glad that I have everyone in this comment section to talk about something that I Love! (: You guys are so awesome! I hope everyone has a FANTASTIC Christmas!

    But honestly the best present would be Book 3… XD

  • Loklover

    You know, I’m glad that this blog is very international! (: So far I’ve seen people from Italy, Germany, and the Phillipines! I swear, everyone is so awesome on this blog! :D

    • Heisenberg

      That’s true, this blog contains visitors from many different countries. And, what’s awesome about it is all the topics we can debate without necessarily having tons of participants joining in. This has become the website I visit the most throughout my days.

      • Eliminator

        Yes, this blog is awesome. I discovered it before book 2, and I really dont care, that some forums (korraspirit for example) have a larger community.

        • Heisenberg

          It’s not a big deal, but with smaller communities like here you start knowing everyone and what they think about the show.

  • Ariana Moreno

    Merry Christmas everyone!!! Hope everyone has an awesome day!!! I got some new clothes, and my sister preordered book 2 of Korra for me on dvd!!! She also plans on getting me the Korra book 2 art book!! Excited! Oh and our family has a tradition that we do every year, where we go out for chinese at our neighborhood restaurant!! : ) it’s a blast!

  • BOB

    Just to piss off any Republicans in this blog: HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!! Also, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Kwanzaa.

    • Brendan

      That doesn’t piss me off. Why would you think that would piss me off? Is there more to your comment or something?

      • BOB

        Sorry if I offended you in any way. I guess I made a mistake associating religious conservatism with Republicans. I just meant that there’s been a lot of talk about “The War on Christmas” and how people are saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas- which apparently pisses off the conservatives.

        • Loklover

          My parents don’t let me say Merry Christmas but I do anyways. To me, it doesn’t matter

    • Nathan

      How in-the-spirit-of-Christmas of you.

    • Ariana Moreno

      just wondering, how is a korra fan website any place for this kind of stuff? just wondering how you thought it was appropriate, because it is offensive material you know…

      • BOB

        Let me read you the title of this post: ”
        Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, Legend of Korra Fans & Readers”. Again, I’m sorry if I offended anyone.

        • Ariana Moreno

          granted, but it came across as you trying to stir something up, not just an innocent wishing of “happy holidays” to anyone. you even stated, just to piss republicans off, so it was your goal to start something, otherwise, you can take that part out, and it’ll seem less confrontational. and if you’re sorry, then good :)

  • Sibis

    Mike and Bryan should do a Nuktuk saves “Christmas” special.

    Jinora: How will you be able to get to every child on the planet?
    Nuktuk: Do not worry, for I have the Sonic Bison. An Air Bison that can go faster than the speed of SOUND!.

    Meanwhile, hiding in the shadows.
    Mako: *Evil chuckle.* I don’t think so, Nuktuk. There will be no happy happy joy joy for anyone. What do you say?
    Asami: *Chewing gum, blows a bubble that pops, and back to chewing.* Whatever.

    • Ariana Moreno

      I normally don’t approve of anymore nuk tuk, but this is funny! XD

      • Sibis

        Nuk Tuk can be entertaining as long it remains silly.

        • Ariana Moreno

          yeah, but too bad there’s no place for it in a serious plot like in book 2.

      • MG

        I don’t mind a Nuktuk mini series like Republic City Hustle.
        Just as you’ve said, it doesn’t fit into a serious plot, though I like how the battle fits with the movie plot in “Night of a Thousand Stars”.

        • Ariana Moreno

          a mini series? hm, i wouldn’t necessarily want that to be honest, because it can get annoying, but if it were a one hour christmas special like that example Sibis had, then that’s alright with me! XD and the way they tied in Bolin’s battle at the end with the Nuktuk mover was pretty awesome. It helped to maximize Bolin’s role in book 2, though it was pretty much wasted by Nuktuk in the first place.

          • Sibis

            If you don’t mind the lack of animation, they could do some audio adventures of Nuktuk.

            Just the voice actors, music, and sound effects. In a format like radio shows.

          • Ariana Moreno

            that’d be an idea XD

          • Eliminator

            Sibis you are frustrating me. Why the hell, do you always want to see a dark side of Korra / Avatar… Why?

          • Ariana Moreno

            dude, it isn’t that bad of an idea i think. Wouldn’t you always find it interesting to see the other side of someone else? whether it be good or dark? i always think it’s interesting to see the side of someone else that you’ve never seen before, or expected. that’s what spices things up :p

          • Sibis

            Korra’s darkside has always been there.

            Threatens a non-bender protester for free speech. Threatens to murder a judge and nearly carries it out while anger driven. Destroys Mako’s desk when she confronts him in Peacekeepers. Expected the SWT to fall in line. Then blames them for not doing it.

            She has a hair trigger to anger to possibly violence. Not above to using violence to intimidate others.

            Korra doesn’t generally respect others or boundaries.

            Avatars could be prone to be “tyrannical” at times. Absolute power, only one person calling the shots, no oversight, and runs on their own moral compass.

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah all of this is true. Even Aang had to learn to control the avatar state, because at first it was a result of his lack of self control of his anger. Others were at risk when he was in the avatar state, at least at first because he lacked self control.

          • Sibis

            As we seen in Air and Spirits, Korra is also prone to manipulation on top of her stubbornness. So that makes her even more dangerous when somebody starts pulling her strings.

          • Ariana Moreno

            even though she may be prone to manipulation, it’s not like she was easily manipulated, at least at first. Her stubbornness was easier to notice in book 1. for example, in episode 8 of season 1, she even tells Tarrlak, after he tells her he’ll release her friends if she joins his task force, she goes, “you may be able to manipulate zykon and the others into following you, but it won’t work on me,” so, there have been times where she refused to be manipulated even when her friends were in trouble, but however it does seem like more and more she stopped being stubborn, because in spirits, she was willing to do what Unalaq told her when he was threatening to take Jinora’s soul. So, she started off stubborn, but got more and more easy to manipulate. At least from what I’ve seen throughout the two books.

          • Sibis

            Before Tarrlok, Korra’s father and Tenzin manipulated Korra to keep her locked away from the world for most of her life.

          • Eliminator

            that’s not manipulation. They said, that aang ordered to keep the next Avatar save, and Tenzin and Tonraq wanted exactly that, even though they lied.
            Locking her away was probably the best decision, she was able to concentrate on mastering the three elements, which prepared her for the dangerous world outside of the compound.

          • Sibis

            That is manipulation. Tenzin and Tonraq fabricated a lie in order to keep Korra on a compound and control her life for 10+ years.

            She had no choice to choose her teachers and the plan was what stunted her spirit growth.

          • Eliminator

            Whatever. In my opinion her family has a right to keep her safe. And in the end, we see, that Tenzin and the others did a great job.

          • Sibis

            It’s no different from other Christmas legends like Krampus which is used to keep the children in line.

            The end result to keep the children under control.

          • Ariana Moreno

            no threats were involved though. i listed examples of what that could be above: a reward for staying on the island, or a threat if she left. she didn’t even follow the rule anyway. she escaped on her own, so i still believe that overall, her tendency to be manipulated increased gradually, but mostly in book 2.

          • Sibis

            I’m referring to manipulation, through the use of deception. It worked for a long time.

            Korra escapes after being told that she has mastered her three elements, Tenzin won’t be around to teach her, and Katara encouraged her to go.

          • Eliminator

            What was your point about manipulation anyway? Oh right. Korra sucks, thats what you want to say, huh?

            Well, I believe, she is on the right way to be an excellent Avatar, she has good friends (Bolin is a good friend, Mako can sometimes be a good friend, too, if we ignore that relationship issue), and good teachers, good parents as well.

          • Ariana Moreno

            she was going before katara said a word, so therefore it was Korra’s decision before hand. She still chose to chase after Tenzin even though he left and claimed he couldn’t teach her. I think all of these are examples of her refusing to take no for an answer, therefore, not being manipulated easily. being told she had to remain on the island was not manipulating. the others just kept it from her to keep her safe. but it’s not manipulation. even tenzin tried to keep her from the pro bending activity, but she refused to listen anyway. she wasn’t that easily manipulated in book 1 like book 2 where she obeyed Unalaq’s orders, even after she found out was his plans were.

          • Eliminator

            I disagree. When was she manipulated except Unalaq lying to her. She didn’t know, since she trusted her uncle.

          • Ariana Moreno

            at the end Unalaq manipulated her big time. that’s what i’m referring to, and i listed two examples, one from book 1, and one from book 2. book 1-Tarrlak and her joining the task force-she refused despite the consequences, and book 2-Unalaq and opening the spirit portals-she gave in, and she knew what his real goal was then. you can say that she is easily manipulated in book 2 compared to book 1.

          • Eliminator

            you mean, when she opened the 2nd spirit portal? Yes, she knew then, since she got that flashback of Wan, but she was not going to sacrafice Jinora.

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah. that’s what i mean. she was willing to obey Unalaq for the sake of Jinora, but in book 1, her friends were arrested and she still refused to obey Tarrlak, see the what i’m saying? XD

          • Eliminator

            They were ONLY in jail, their life was not in danger. However, Jinora guided Korra into the Spirit World, she can’t just say: “Yeah sorry Jinora, you got yourself in trouble, for the faith of the world I have to sacrafice you.”

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah, but still. manipulation is manipulation. that’s why i’m saying in book 2 she was more easily willing to obey, whether it be out of being blackmailed or manipulation

          • Eliminator

            Okay, I can live with that :p
            But… she had no other choice. Would you have returned to the physical world and leave Jinora with Unalaq behind?

          • Ariana Moreno

            that’s exactly what korra did lol XD she did just that! how long did it take before Tenzin finally rescued her soul? a week! so it’s not like korra exactly saved her up front anyway XD

          • Ariana Moreno

            true, at first she was clueless, but in the end when he threatened her that he would take Jinora’s soul, she knew what he was doing, and still obeyed him.

          • Eliminator

            I don’t count that as manipulation. He blackmailed Korra. and we all know Korra. She would do everything to save her friends, everything. And Jinora and Korra really grew closer through the Spirit Journey

          • Ariana Moreno

            but she didn’t at first with Tarrlak.

          • Eliminator

            Yeah, Tarrlok got her into the task force. It was still… not manipulation. The reporters attacked her pride/honor because she refused to join. I think she had no other choice. she regretted her decision immediately, but Tarrlok is a genius in political stuff.

          • Ariana Moreno

            it was. he said he would release her friends if she joined him. look at episode 8. she even goes” so that’s why you arrested them? to get to me?” then tarrlak goes, “i need your answer,” then she goes, “no, you may be able to manipulate zykon and the others into following you, but it won’t work on me” she even defines it as manipulation

          • Eliminator

            Oh, I thought you are speaking about the Gala evening, where she joined the task force. Yeah, I guess she didn’t let Tarrlok blackmail her since she knew, that he is to no good. Also Korra felt, she was in charge, and I think she was going to fight him anyway.

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah. that’s what i’m talking about. in book 1 she still didn’t let others control her that easily, like book 2 where unalaq had more control because she knew more was at risk i guess, but you should be getting my point. book 1-korra wasn’t as easily controlled as book 2

          • Eliminator

            In book 1 Korra was strong, she was able to oppress her enemies easily. However she was powerless against Unalaq in their spiritual abilities.

            By the way: I just thought of something: WHY THE HELL DID KORRA AND JINORA ENTER THE SPIRIT WORLD AT ALL. ONE PORTAL WAS CLOSED, THEY SHOULD HAVE WAITED TILL AFTER HARMONIC CONVERGENCE.
            So yeah, not only Unalaq did some stupid things in book 2, Korra did too. Well, I think the creators needed a way to open the 2nd portal…

          • Ariana Moreno

            because korra needed to close the other portal…but yeah, that is a good point…i’ll have to think about that haha Xp

          • Eliminator

            Harmonic Convergence can only occur, when both portals are open. That’s why Unalaq said to Vaatu, when he failed to open the 2nd portal at the end of episode 9: “The Avatar is dead, and we cannot open the Northern portal. I have failed you, Vaatu.”

          • Ariana Moreno

            duuuuuuude!!! you are so right! yeah, i guess that’s considered a loophole in the plot then, but yeah, the creators needed an excuse for more conflict in book 2, aka harmonic convergence and vaatu’s escape XD

          • Eliminator

            yeah, it would be really boring if Korra just did the “patience” stuff and waited the weeks till Harmonic Convergence was over. Well, we wouldn’t have the awesome final of book 2 if that happened.

          • Ariana Moreno

            i loved the finale too, despite the flaws. even though things could’ve been better explained, i still liked the action, animation, and i still think it was intense

          • Eliminator

            I especially enjoyed a scene in episode 3, when Unalaq was about to kill Korra and Raava said: “Korra, this fight is not over. Vaatu cannot win. Do not give in to 10.000 years of darkness. YOU are the Avatar!” and then Korra enters the avatar State. That scene really impressed me.

          • Ariana Moreno

            haha yea. i expected her to do that. she doesn’t give up easily. plus unalaq deserved his ass to be blown up XD i was happy she did that finally lol

          • Eliminator

            No friend of her was in danger. Why should she join, besides, Korra feared Amon. That’s the major reason she refused to join. Normally she wouldn’t refuse something like that, where she can help the city.

          • Ariana Moreno

            i was gonna say this isn’t manipulation. it’s just a simple rule that had to be followed, and yet, even then, Korra was rebellious enough to escape on her own. so, she was never prone to manipulation at the beginning, and this is not an example of that. it’s only a rule, otherwise if it were manipulation, they would’ve made it so Korra would be offered something she’d appreciate if she happened to stay on the island, or they would’ve done something bad to her if she left. none of those threats were made, so this isn’t manipulation.

          • Ariana Moreno

            she still argued with that anyway. ex-her escape, and this was going to be done even before katara said a word to her.

          • Eliminator

            Yes, Korras character development was awesome. Remember her stupid decision in “The Voice in the Night” to face Amon alone at Aang Memorial Island? She wouldn’t do something similar again.

          • Ariana Moreno

            her development was very good. the only thing i can recognize as similar would be her leaving on her own in peacekeepers. she isolated herself and it did appear that she was gonna try to tackle things on her own, but of course that didn’t last very long, and after being rescued and realizing that she was almost killed by a spirit, she knew she needed everyone’s help, especially Tenzin.

          • Eliminator

            She left to the fire nation to get the fire lords help. I don’t think, she wanted to be just alone…

          • Ariana Moreno

            was that where she was really going? how do you know this? was it explained? it seemed ilke she had the mindset of, “fine, if no one else will help me, I’ll take care of this myself” she went off in her boat alone, so it’s not like she wanted company, but how do you know the fire nation is where she was headed?

          • Eliminator

            Look in the book 2 transcripts:
            Korra: Bolin, I need you to watch Naga while I’m gone.
            Bolin: Where you going?
            Korra: The Fire Nation. I’m going to try to get them to help the South. [To Varrick.] I need a boat.

            (Source: http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Transcript:Peacekeepers)

            Everybody else was busy in RC, so there was no reason not to go alone, and Mako just broke up with her…

          • Ariana Moreno

            oh okay, for some reason i didn’t remember that detail. i guess you’re right in saying that she wouldn’t make a careless decision to do that on her own, if that was in the script, then that closes this part of the discussion. my bad XD haha i need to brush up on my memory. nice :p

          • Eliminator

            I watched most episodes more than twice (except The Sting, i hated that episode), and if I discuss things, I mostly have a look in the transcripts, too.

          • Ariana Moreno

            oh okay. well, i gotta go, but i’ll get back on later. i did reply to your comment on development though XD

          • Eliminator

            me, too. See you later :)

          • Eliminator

            Lol, it was her uncle… of course she trusted him. I guess, that’s why Bryan and Mike chose him as villain.

          • Eliminator

            I never disliked her aggressive side, since I like her character.

            About the Avatar State: Korra has not learned to master the 7 chakras… I guess she did it in the 6 months delay between book 1 and 2… but then again, she was able to energybend Lin in the Avatar State.

          • Eliminator

            Yes, she just arrived at Republic city, and gets welcomed by a protester, who wants to take all benders down. Also, she joked, when she said, she wanted to oppress him. Later, they met again and Korra threatened him because they were searching for Bolin and the protester didn’t want to tell them. I dont see, it was wrong?

            Threaten to kill a judge, who wanted to kill her parents? Acceptable for Korra. Threaten to kill him again to get the truth about Unalaq and her father, also acceptable. I even enjoyed the scene. I like to see her aggressive.

            Mako betrayed Korra, and ratted her out to the president. Also, you heard, what Lin did when Tenzin broke up with her? She messed up whole Airtemple Island, Korra destroying a desk was mothing, even Lin admitted it.

            Korra didn’t do all this because she enjoyed that, she wanted to help other people, her family or friends. I don’t blame her for acting wrong. I support everything she did exept one thing: firing Tenzin as her mentor in Rebel Spirit. but she made up for her mistake, when she returned to Tenzin and apologized.

            Sorry, none of your arguments convinced me.

          • Ariana Moreno

            i think you guys are both right. Korra did surpass boundaries when she handled her anger, because there are better ways to handle anger unless it’s very necessary that she be violent, but at the same time, she was only doing it for the sake of what she believed in and showing others how the way they handled stuff with her made her feel. so i think you guys can both be right in ways.

          • Heisenberg

            That’s not really a dark side. That’s more her being her teenage hot-headed self. Being dark means being cold hearted, using others for one’s self purpose, being selfish and self-centric. Not caring for others’ needs or feelings.

          • Eliminator

            being the avatar (to serve the world) contradicts with being dark. That’s why it is pointless.

          • Heisenberg

            I swear to god, some fans don’t know what they want. Half the fandom complained that Korra was too aggressive and rash and now that she’s developing people want her to be darker? What the fucking hell is going on?

          • Sibis

            It’s still to early to tell if she’s gotten better. Korra was told by Iroh to stay positive and that gave her some direction.

            She was still rash on her decision to keep both portals open which is unknown territory and she has no idea of the outcome.

          • Heisenberg

            She, obviously, didn’t become as wise a monk let’s say. However, she’s showing some signs of improvement, and since we’re still halfway through the show it is all we can ask for so far

          • Sibis

            As long it doesn’t become like the beginning of Spirits where we find out that Korra’s development stalled for those 6 months.

          • Heisenberg

            Yeah, I kind of agree on that. Book 2 had the same purpose as Book 1: Make Korra learn her true identity. And, Book 1 was way better managed than Book 2. I just hope they don’t pull another Book 2 on the upcoming Book.

          • Sibis

            I think the direction of Korra is up in the air from here. At first, it was expected she would become like her predecessors.

            Now that things changed, she is in the position to redefine the meaning of being the Avatar. Like her first act of keeping the portals open and redefining her role in the world.

          • Heisenberg

            I don’t think the meaning of Avatar would change that much. She may not be a bridge anymore since humans can enter the spiritual world, but she is still some kind of ambassador and the only one to bend all four elements. She’ll just end up renewing the cycle of the Avatar in a new era.

          • Eliminator

            She is the avatar, and if she thinks, the physical world is ready, she can give it a try. Also, she is not bonded with Wan’s decision. Wan also only closed the portals because Vaatu was imprisoned.

          • Sibis

            Wan also had the Spirits be sent back to their world.

            Humans didn’t have much of a chance of developing with the Spirits around. They couldn’t build their own settlement without the Spirits starting a fight.

            Spirits were the reason people lived in fear and on the Lion Turtles for safety.

            Humans and Spirits can be territorial by their very nature. They are also the top two dominate groups in the series.

          • Sibis

            Some of those Lion Turtle settlements like the one Wan is from have groups people hoarding and controlling all the resources. They live like kings while everyone else is in slums.

          • Ariana Moreno

            when it comes to her self control, i think she has made some noticeable improvement compared to book 1. at least in the end of book 2

          • Eliminator

            Yeah I remember. In book 1 some fans said, that Asami should be the real avatar “because her character was better”… what a silly idea. And now she should be evil and make Nuktuk (most pointless plot ever) defeat her, haha.

          • Heisenberg

            Asami should be replaced by a new generation of Kyoshi Warrior if you ask me If Bryke really wants a non-bender in the new Team, why not pick someone who has more appeal.

          • Sibis

            The Avatar series is heavily combat oriented. Spirits just moved the curve to where only bending is applicable in a fight.

            This is why Asami is having a hard time finding a role. She’s not really meant to be a fighter despite her training and one hit knock out Equalist glove which makes that training moot. Everything that makes Asami is nearly useless in the overall plot.

            She’s only there to fill in the non-bender spot for Team Avatar.

          • Heisenberg

            She’s also there to be a love-triangle pawn, which is a sad excuse of her existence in the show. I sometimes wonder if Seychelle Gabrielle (Asami’s voice actress) is actually making some decent money voice acting a couple of lines,some grunts and some gasps.Does it even pay the gas from her house to the studio? Asami is considered a main character yet is barely shown and completely irrelevant.

          • Sibis

            I know it’s too late, but they should have just made her a Lois Lane.

            An investigative reporter would have been a better role. A crack investigator to unravel the mysterious of Korra’s enemies. Writes stories from her time with Korra. The end of each season finale ends with the narration of the reporter’s story to summarize and wrap it up.

          • Ariana Moreno

            i mean even if asami were a spy for team avatar, that would’ve been kind of cool. if she were a spy for the team in book 1, she could’ve spied on Amon and what his plans were, and she could spy on Unalaq and his plans with vaatu. i think a spy could’ve also been a cool role for her

          • Sibis

            Either the spy or investigator both calls for one thing Asami needs, to be the genius.

            Asami should have been the genius and her high level of intellect is her major contribution to
            the group. She stays out of combat, preferring to think of strategies to help
            the others fight.

            However, Asami is as dense as the rest in the group. If she was a genius, then she would have figured out Mako right off the bat the moment he strayed and her father’s plan.

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah. i agree with what you’re saying. if only the creators used her in that way. if only they used her intellectual side, as supposed to making her useless. people call her the team avatar taxi driver lol XD

          • Sibis

            She is suppose to be the rich educated girl.

            However, LOK keeps delivering the big reveal of truth by blathering characters.

          • Heisenberg

            It’s a shame they didn’t put Asami to better use. Compared to the moron bros. (Mako and Bolin) she had some real potential to be an outstanding character.

          • Ariana Moreno

            you know i actually took that nuktuk idea as a joke XD you know just for fun, not an idea to be taken seriously. that’s why i’m not took worried about it.

          • Eliminator

            No. I dont want to see Toph to be dead serious. I dont want to see Aang preferring violence. And I dont want to see an evil Korra, too.

          • Ariana Moreno

            well maybe that’s your preference, but every once in a while i think it’s good to make things different. just because i think it’s more human. people change too. no one ever stays the same in life. take Korra for example. At first she was very hot headed, immature, and reckless with her behavior but now she is more mature and she thinks more before she makes rash decisions. she realizes now that there’s more to being the avatar than the fighting aspect of it, and just holding the “title”. she realizes that there’s a lot more to her avatar duties, than just kicking ass. spirits showed a lot of that development.

          • Eliminator

            Yes her character developed. But changing it completely is something different.

          • Ariana Moreno

            you don’t have to change someone completely to see that they have another side to them. all you are doing is simply revealing another side of someone else, but it doesn’t mean that it will always be displayed at the surface. i don’t mean for characters to change to their opposites, but to see another side of them, even if it’s for a little while.

          • Eliminator

            Fine, I can live with that in a Nuktuk story :p
            But since this is not going to happen… I don’t want to see something like that in book 3 / 4. We already lack in character development, so there is many other things to focus on.

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah haha you got that right. we can’t really see different sides to someone if they aren’t very developed, though in a way, this could contribute to the development itself, like korra’s mature side for example. her calm side. she didn’t show much of this in book 1. so, in a way seeing a different side of someone else can still be helpful to their development.

          • Eliminator

            Korra was mature in the later episodes of book 2, but I hope, we see her aggressive character of book 1 once again.

          • Ariana Moreno

            i guess it depends for me. will this aggressiveness be necessary? or will it just be a sign in her regression in maturity…i guess it depends on why she would be aggressive, but yeah, i agree that that was an admirable part of her character. but time changes people…she changed for sure.

          • Eliminator

            no, not regression. just, there is not much left of the once hot-headed character of Korra. It shouldn’t be completely lost even though she matured.

          • Ariana Moreno

            agreed. but what i’m saying is if this aggression was extreme, like a temper tantrum. but anyway, yes, i agree with you. even if she did mature, this side could probably still be awakened, just maybe not as extreme as before, but by regression, i mean back to square one, when it comes to her self control

          • Heisenberg

            Seeing Korra’s dark side would be a moronic idea. She just became wiser and more mature, making her darker would be a huge contradiction with the purpose of the show: Korra learning to be more spiritual, patient and wiser.

          • Eliminator

            exactly, she is learning to be a fully realized avatar instead of messing up.

          • Ariana Moreno

            but isn’t that what you wanted? to see her be more aggressive?

          • Eliminator

            that doesn’t mean, she should be dark/evil… that’s a major difference

          • Ariana Moreno

            okay, but who said she had to be dark?? XD who? i know i never used those words lol

          • Eliminator

            Sibis! :p

          • Ariana Moreno

            haha XD okay then. well, what my whole point was not to make korra dark, or anyone for that matter, but that it would be interesting to see a different side to someone. one that is normally hidden, or unexpected…that’s ALL XD but people seem to take all of that so seriously!

          • Eliminator

            Yeah, but I think, we know everything of Korra currently? It’s not like she has another side we haven’t discovered yet – besides maybe how she acts in her love life with Mako *cough* but I am pretty sure, that this will stay “fan imagination” :p

          • Ariana Moreno

            dude, a different side to ANYONE IN GENERAL!!! not Korra in particular lol! XD OMG are you getting it? :p you don’t seem to get what my point is…ANYONE! NOT JUST KORRA XD oh dear haha. a different side, to anyone! anyone! not korra! or not just korra! anyone! fine, we’ve seen all there is about korra so far! but what about anyone else??

          • Eliminator

            Oh *facepalm* I FINALLY GOT IT. :D
            Yeah, maybe another side of Bolin or Mako, and I want to see Asami mad, serious deadly mad, like she should have been, when Korra stole Mako in book 1. Yes, Asami should be dark!

          • Ariana Moreno

            haha no worries bro. you get it now so yay! but anyway, yeah, well, before we see asami change in anyway, she should at least get a more useful role in book 3 if she’s included, and some good development, otherwise, there’s not really a role for her at all. and don’t blame all of it on asami when it comes to mako. we’re not gonna head there again, but he had a lot he could’ve done to prevent the situation from going down the way it did with all three of them. bottom line, mako doesn’t treat women right at all, and he deserves a kick in the face. gonna leave that alone lol

          • Eliminator

            You are right, sadly. I wish, Mike and Bryan would have handled Mako better and developed him in book 2. Seriously, how they dare to bring the love triangle back. This is frustrating.

          • Ariana Moreno

            who knows, but all i know is that if mako doesn’t become lovable by the time book 4 ends, (seriously i feel like the chances of him becoming likable are slim) then i’ll still hate him, and it will be a waste of a character

          • Eliminator

            Yeah I know. Let’s leave it alone, or another 300-comment-long discussion threatens to take over this “merry christmas” thread.

            by the way, do you like to read fanfictions? If so, you should read this one, it’s all about book 1, but it’s definitely worth it. The author was really creative. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8068159/1/Korrabook

            Laughed almost to death!

          • Ariana Moreno

            hahaha XD and eh, i’ve never gotten into reading fan fictions because i fear of a lot of characters being messed up, paired up badly, even with the writer, (people pair themselves up with characters-most cheesy thing ever, sorry) and stuff like that. but if you suggest this one, i may check it out sometime i guess XD and yeah, haha watch it happen! this looks like it has the potential to become a huge discussion haha

          • Eliminator

            I know, most fanfictions are crap, but there are some, which are good. First of all, I hate AU-Fanfictions, that means, the avatar characters live in an other world, for example in our time. I think those fanfictions mess the “avatar-feeling” up.
            Then there are fanfics with awful pairings like Korra/Tarrlok or Korra/Asami and so on. And then there are authors, who are not that talented in writing. They don’t plan their story and it gets messed up and boring and they repeat themself (there is a fanfic, where Korra is captured by Amon 4 times! In chapter 2, 4, 5 and 7 – boring).

            But some people really can feel like the characters and write good ones.

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah, there are too many jacked up fan fictions out there so that’s why i normally don’t bother wasting my time with them because i would get too tired of looking for one i liked anyway, but like i said, if this one you think is good, then maybe some time i’ll take a look at it, but i normally don’t

          • Eliminator

            Yes, i took a few hours recently to browse the 8.100 stories (of course I ignored everything, which is not Makorra) and I bookmarked several good ones, also good one-shots.

          • Ariana Moreno

            wow, you’re dedicated haha XD i couldn’t do that because i don’t have the patience or time

          • Eliminator

            well… off season… i want LoK so badly… i am bored… you know? There are several good fanfictions. The characters are well made, and you really believe, that Korra could act that way, or how another thing could really happen in the real story.
            I can post a few, but the one above was the most funny one!

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah, i want book 3 too. i hear you. but what i do is i go back and watch korra episodes that are already out haha XD and i honestly don’t have that much optimism when it comes to fanfics haha. it would take a lot to convince me otherwise. but if you have that claim, then that’s awesome that you enjoy doing that on your free time XD

          • Loklover

            Literally Lok and Atla are my life! They mean everything to me!

            Yeaa…. I have no social life. XD jk

            But I swear, when Lok ends… imma be so depressed. And I honestly don’t like the comics that much. Not a huge fan of reading.

          • Ariana Moreno

            i never really got much into the avatar comics. but yeah korra is my favorite, and i also really loved atla when it was out as well. i don’t want to think about korra when it ends…..what the heck will i do?? haha don’t want to think about it, but yeah, i never got into the avatar comics either, but the only way i will read a book is mostly if its a comic or anime, i never liked reading unless it’s a good drama filled novel, or a scary one, but yeah, comics are the only things i will read right off the bat XD

          • Eliminator

            I am not a fan of comics either. I haven’t read the comics of ATLA, I read a summary of “The search” to be “up to date” about the avatar universe, but I gave up. I know there are some other comics like The Rift or The Promise, but I doubt, that I will read their summaries.

          • Ariana Moreno

            i just never read them period. i never got around to it, never saw a reason to. i’m sticking with the show

          • Loklover

            It’s weird, my bro just bought me “the promise” and “the search(parts 2&3)for Christmas. I had to say that I liked it( which I really do) but I just can get into the comics. I like watching all the action and stuff on screen. XD but who knows?… maybe these comics will be collectors item later on haha

          • Ariana Moreno

            yeah comics are great for collecting! definitely! i agree! i’d rather hear sound affects and see characters move! instead of imagining what it would look like, and what it would sound like! instead of reading action words and speech bubbles hah XD

          • Eliminator

            I dunno. I don’t know what to do after book 4 conclusion. I really hope, that Mike and Bryan do anther sequel, but I doubt it. LoK and ATLA are awesome, and I don’t know, whether I will ever find another great show, which can compete with the awesomeness of avatar.

          • Eliminator

            There are only 26 episodes to watch! I gotta rewatch the old ATLA episodes, haven’t done that for ages!
            Now I know, why I still like Mako! In good fanfictions, he is always the nice cool fire bender, who loves Korra and cares about her. And I read plenty of those fanfictions, so yeah, I can’t hate him. If you want me to hate him, I just have to rewatch “The Sting”, then I will definitely.
            Also, I said already, ATLA and LoK are my only TV shows I watch currently. Never another show had a such impact on me.

          • Ariana Moreno

            hahaha! so you only like him because of “fantasies”? hmmm, you sure that’s a good reason to like characters? because of what they’re not? and because of how fans make them? never thought that was logical, but alright bro XD

          • Eliminator

            Fans want Mako to be nice, and they do a quite well job without messing his character up.
            Most of the fanfictions are about Makorra in book 1, there are only few about book 2. I think many people got disappointed about Makos negative development and the break up in the last episode, it really killed a part of the Makorra community. I don’t know, what Mike and Bryans plan is. but they disappointed a lot of fans.

            Somebody also said at a facebook group: “With the Makorra breakup in book 2 Mike and Bryan wants to show us, how they hated the Zutara fans.”

          • Ariana Moreno

            pssh. dude. i hate the shipping, so i honestly can’t relate. i hate mako, and korra deserves better, so for me it’s not a problem. not only that, but they have the plot to worry about. that’s more important than the romance right now. for me it doesn’t matter why they broke up and all that jazz with the shipping. i don’t’ care why about any of that, and the shipping itself. i want more development, less distractions, and i want korra to either stay single, or be with someone who knows how to treat women more than the douche mako. haha XD

          • Eliminator

            well, Korra being single would be against the “avatar rules” i guess. The protagonist always gets it happy end, I already said this, but you are right. Plot first, then romance.

          • Ariana Moreno

            eh, i guess. but yeah. you get it. so like i said, if korra is stuck with ending up with mako, he better be worthy of it :p

          • Loklover

            Yea.. I was also reading a fanfic where they paired up Amon and Asami. That was f***** BS XD

          • Eliminator

            Some Amorra are worse, believe me.

          • Loklover

            Eww! Wtf?! Just creepy. And I hate how some fanfics give like the characters names like (for example) Leo and Cameron. It’s so unoriginal. Most Avatar names are unique and has a meaning to their name that fits their character.

          • Eliminator

            Yeah, fanfictions with OC- characters mostly are bad. In one of them, korra has a sister and she is a criminal. wasn’t worth reading it, i think.

          • Ariana Moreno

            bs is right! the chances of fan fics not being full of it are very slim

          • Loklover

            I love fanfics! The only ones that I don’t like are the smutty fanfics. Haha

          • Ariana Moreno

            oh gosh. i can’t stand fanfics haha XD i’d be very picky if i had to look for one i liked.

          • Eliminator

            Well, I can choose some good ones for you, and you tell us, what you think! In these fanfictions Mako is not a jerk.

          • Eliminator

            Yeah, I mostly ignore “M”-Rated ones.

          • Ariana Moreno

            who even said to make her dark?

          • Ariana Moreno

            i never said for anyone to change her completely either. i’m not even saying to make her dark. all i’m saying is that in general, to see another side of someone, even if it’s temporary, makes it more interesting. they don’t have to be the complete opposites in order for you to see another side in them.

          • Sibis

            Characters are generally different shades of grey. There are different concepts of what is defined as dark. Some for example examine the ethical vs. unethical aspects.

          • Ariana Moreno

            well it looks like here, people have their own definition of dark, so i guess it can go in all kinds of directions…depending on what people want to see, and what they define dark as…

          • Sibis

            My comparison of dark for a character is ethical vs. unethical methods.

            I see Good and Evil as just a perception, unless the story does it as absolute good vs. absolute evil with no middle ground of grey.

          • Ariana Moreno

            oh okay. so for you it has to do more with morals then

          • Heisenberg

            That’d be horrible. It’s like asking for a spinoff show of the avatar Ember Island players in Book 3 of ATLA. Nuktuk is one of the main reasons Bolin’s development was held back, it was cheesy as hell. I hope we;l never get to witness Nuktuk or any of this sort again

          • Eliminator

            yeah we have to focus on the main plot. Side plots are okay as long as it bonds the new team or developes them together. Nuktuk was stupid, I didn’t enjoy the short scenes, in which he fought Unalaq.

          • Heisenberg

            I can’t believe more Nuktuk is requested. It was totally cheesy, irrelevant and it is only funny to pre-school kids.

          • Eliminator

            As we saw in book 2, only pre-school kids admired him^^

          • Heisenberg

            Yeah, and teenagers and adults like Korra, so I hope Bryke will tone down the unnecessary pre-school comedy and put more focus on the plot and development.

          • Ariana Moreno

            maybe some fans still like Nuktuk despite the issues it caused…what can we do? that’s why I’m saying that Sibis joke was funny, and that suggestion of an hour long christmas special is how far i’d go at all, otherwise, no more Nuktuk! I said that the first time around

          • Ariana Moreno

            lets not go any further than just an hour’s worth, because like i said earlier, it gets old quickly.

    • Sibis

      Introduce Korra as this evil female version of Nuktuk. She sold her soul to darkness to gain immense powers to bend all elements.

      Nuktuk struggles to fight her while Jinora pleads to all the children to cheer and put their faith in him. The cheers of the children overwhelm Korra and weaken her allowing Nuktuk to defeat her. Nuktuk and Jinora thank the children.

      With Korra defeated and Asami bails on Mako, he does the “villain runs away claiming to win next time.” Nuktuk laughs at the thought while stomping his foot creating a wall of ice that Mako runs smack dab into, knocking him out.

  • Loklover

    You guyyz! This is tha best Avatar phone case ever!

    • Heisenberg

      That is awesome. It’s amazing how Bryke used real Kung Fu movements for each bending style in ATLA and then mixed them for LOK. It shows great continuity and advancement.

    • Ariana Moreno

      saweeeeet! X) i love it

    • Loklover

      Holy crap! You guys comment fast! Last time I checked there were only 99 comments now there are almost 150. Hahha

      • Eliminator

        Yeah, thanks to us spammers Adriana, Heisenberg, Sibis and me. You may join us.

        • Loklover

          I will maybe. :) you guys are always commenting to each other! XD

          • Eliminator

            Yeah it’s a nice discussion yet, since Adriana, Heisenberg and I are not discussing (we haven’t detected any other conflict since the Mako-topic). Although I have some differences with SIbis, but, oh well…

  • Sibis

    For Book 3 and 4, the series needs to reign in the combat from being heavily bender oriented. We need to see a more mix of punches, kicks, grabs, throws, and possibly weapon use.

    Put more on finesse and creativity. Have benders mix up their moves while even combining close up fighting with their bending. “Fire Rocket bending for momentum into a drop kick.”

    • Ariana Moreno

      the creators said they wanted to avoid that head on violence so that they could make it more friendly for kids, especially if it’s on nickelodeon. they said bending was the next best thing up from actual violence in combat. they explained that in a documentary i watched when they were making atla. they asked themselves how will we take care of fighting scenes and still make it kid friendly? then they came up with the bending idea. i still think it gets the “fighting” point across, very creatively too. they use actual martial arts for the bending techniques anyway

  • chewgum

    Things that bryke should put on LOK:
    korra’s birthday
    avatar christmas

  • Sibis

    I think Legend of Korra could be better if they have some Batman Beyond writers.

  • daniel yefru

    whisper quietly in the dark* ps4!